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Post by disguy on Jul 16, 2008 20:28:03 GMT 12
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could clear up a question for me. I have a disability and would like to ride a motorcycle. Practically, a moped would be probably best but I would like something that could be ridden on the motorway. I have been looking at a PGO MP3 but I have been looking at a bolt on conversion kit (Danson) to change a burgman scooter into a trike as I think it would be a better vehicle for my needs. Basically it is a set of outrigger wheels (yes, trainer wheels would also be a term you could use although not in front of me please). Although it is called a trike kit, it actually is a four wheeled vehicle once completed. Would this vehicle be classified as a trike or a customised motorcycle or even a car? They currently don't do a kit for the Burgman 250 so if I were to buy the Burgman 400 kit it would mean if it were classified as a motorcycle I wouldn't be able to get my learners license on it as it would be outside the learners 250cc restriction. I have also been considering importing a 150cc trike motorcycle from China as well but don't really know much about them and I am a bit dubious about quality or spare parts availability.
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Post by Justin on Jul 22, 2008 8:19:12 GMT 12
Hi Disguy
Both Kendall and I have taken a look at the question you have posted. This is a new one for us, and one which we will need to do some homework on to be able to give you an answer. We will post a reply as soon as we can.
Cheers
Justin
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Post by disguy on Jul 28, 2008 19:47:44 GMT 12
Thanks Justin, I look forward to your reply.
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Post by Justin on Sept 4, 2008 12:52:29 GMT 12
Hi again Disguy
As we haven't ever had this question put to us before, we have sought an answer from the NZ Transport Agency. (Formerly Land Transport NZ)
Unfortunately we are still waiting for this information from them, as soon as we have an answer we will post it here.
Sorry for the delay.
Justin
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Post by kendall on Sept 18, 2008 9:09:34 GMT 12
Hi Disguy
My apologies again for the time it has taken to get an answer for you.
A reply has come from the New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA) in regards to your question on the fitment of outrigger wheels to a motorcycle. NZTA have determined that the vehicle will be classed as a trike and a declaration will need to be issued calling it a motorcycle for licensing and registration purposes.
Regards
Kendall
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Post by disguy on Sept 25, 2008 21:11:16 GMT 12
Hi Kendall It looks like the MP3 may be the bike for me then as I can't pass my licence on a 400. It wouldn't in my opinion be as safe as the modified bike but unfortunately the transport laws here always seem more draconian and inflexible than overseas with regard to new technology, lateral thinking and innovation. Thanks Kendall for taking all the time you did in finding out the info, even if it wasn't the answer I was after. Disguy
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Post by leakers on Feb 26, 2009 0:30:10 GMT 12
Hi Kendall It looks like the MP3 may be the bike for me then as I can't pass my licence on a 400. It wouldn't in my opinion be as safe as the modified bike but unfortunately the transport laws here always seem more draconian and inflexible than overseas with regard to new technology, lateral thinking and innovation. Thanks Kendall for taking all the time you did in finding out the info, even if it wasn't the answer I was after. Disguy What about contacting the trike group, Kiwi Trikers Social Club, Inc. KTSC, which is a member of the LVVTA . Many Harleys and other large bikes have been modified into Trikes over the years with the addition of a car diff. In fact from 1930s up to the 70s Harley made a bike called a servicar which was a trike. I can see no reason that a bike like a GN250 could not have a light car diff like a 1200 Nissan or similar fitted with LVVTA certification . I built a couple of these before the days of certification, both for paraplegic friends. You pm me if you want, it is possible. The rear section can be built in such a way that the bike can be returned to normal and sold for future size or model upgrades...requiring further cert of course, but would avoid paying for engineering over and over. or you could get one of the VW trikes which are registered as a car because of the width.......... Where do you live Disguy?
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Post by disguy on Nov 19, 2009 19:54:23 GMT 12
Hi, sorry. I haven't been on here for a while. I considered one of those and saw an older Savage with the same thing a while back on Trademe. The reason I wanted a scooter is because they are auto and because I have to drive with hand controls the bolt on wheels would be a simple bolt on conversion and a lot less hassle than a trike where I would have to add a kliktronic or something similar for the gear changes and modify brakes, etc.
My doctor recommended I don't get a bike - which I sort of agree with as I have a lot of skin on bone skin grafts and other issues and if I were to fall or be knocked off it would quite possibly be curtains this time. I have been more recently been thinking of an older MX5 convertible or Corvette as a second car in lieu of a bike because they are safer and the ACC levies would possibly require a second mortgage. Briefly considered a Can-Am Spyder but can't afford one right now. I just popped on here to find out a question on convertibles but thanks for the offer, I am in Auckland but please don't hold that against me. ;D
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