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Post by fingers on Aug 16, 2017 9:34:31 GMT 12
Where abouts do I find the process for getting a scratch built kit car right through putting it on the road please? Are the steps I need to take documented anywhere? Just wondering what the order is and where I find any info, from periodic cert checks to getting a VIN and WOF etc.
Thanks
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Post by Todd on Aug 17, 2017 9:49:28 GMT 12
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Post by fingers on Aug 22, 2017 17:58:01 GMT 12
Thanks, but that's not quite what I'm after. The certifier I'm using told me there was a flow chart on the LVVTA site that prescribed the steps. I would like to know what order I need to do things in. From filling in the TAC approval form for the build, to getting the checks done by the certifier, and a what stage should I be getting the VIN for the car.
I've all but finished my scratch built kit car and I had no idea I needed to go for a VIN and compliance check until the certifier told me at the last inspection. I've read just about every document on this site and the Hobby car manual from back to front while I've been building the car and have never seen it mentioned. I'm told by the compliance centre that I'm faced with having to strip the interior, which will damage it and take me months to redo, and possibly more of the car as they want to see every welded seam. It's a space frame chassis so that's going to take some stripping.
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Post by Todd on Aug 23, 2017 9:36:42 GMT 12
Hi Fingers, Sadly there's no flow chart on our website (We'll get one sorted, as you're likely not alone). However the NZTA site does provide some information, which is hopefully enough to help. There are two parts to the process that often get confused. The first is the vehicle being assigned a VIN number, the second is the compliance process, often referred to as vinning. A scratch-built vehicle should not need to be stripped for vinning, as this process will have been taken care of by the certifier during the build process. However, the car will need to have a VIN number assigned to it. You can find out about that process here: vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/entry-certification/pre-reg-and-vin/vin-assignment/assigning-a-vin-to-a-low-volume-vehicleWhere it gets a bit complicated is that the vehicle needs to have a VIN number assigned to it before a certification plate can be issued for it. So, if the car is close to completion now,it's probably a good time to get the VIN number issued. You'll likely need to take the vehicle to the compliance ceentre for this, however just make sure they know you're just asking for a VIN number to be assigned to it, rather than go through the inspection process. Once a VIN number has been assigned to it, you can complete the LVV certification process, then present the car to the compliance centre for the VIN inspection. As the car will have a LVV cert plate fitted to it, the compliance centre should not need to strip the car out to the same extent as you've been told. Hope that helps, but if not, feel free to give me a call in the LVVTA office on 04 238 4343. Cheers Todd |
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Post by fingers on Aug 23, 2017 12:16:08 GMT 12
That's excellent, thanks Todd. I'll discuss it further with the compliance centre. Appreciate your assistance. I was really worried.
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Post by Todd on Aug 23, 2017 14:38:55 GMT 12
Glad to hear it helped. Any further questions, just let me know.
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Post by bzrse7en on Aug 24, 2017 19:33:25 GMT 12
Actually a flow chart would be (in my case would have been) good. I have built 2 scrach builds, and both times compliance was confused by the compliance people which turned into an unnecesarily stressful time. I used VTNZ both times, but both times nobody there knew what I was talking about and once they sent me to a compliance place specialising in jap imports - the service was going to be invasive and cost a fortune. Turned out I just needed to find the right person at VTNZ and all was sweet, he was great, but nobody there new who the right person was. Basicly a whole lot of dicking around. In the end compliance cost very little thru VTNZ, just a fancy WOF, the trailering back and forth cost more.
A flow chart and compliance contacts would be a step in the right direction.
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Post by Todd on Aug 28, 2017 9:49:37 GMT 12
We'll get onto it asap. Good to hear that the process wasn't too hard once you got the right person. We'll need to see what we can do about educating the compliance people also, however this isn't something we have any control over.
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Post by fingers on Sept 8, 2017 12:32:23 GMT 12
Where abouts are you bzrse7en? I'm in Christchurch, and the guy at the airport VINZ is very helpful but a little confused today just trying to assign a VIN. As my chassis number is 17 digits he says he has to use that as a VIN, the system won't let him assign another. But my chassis number starts with LB, the manufacturers initials, he says that relates to China in the NZ system. He's going to get back to me as soon as he's made a couple of phone calls. I did find this on the NZTA site but it doesn't spell out the finer details www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/warrants-and-certificates/modifying-your-vehicle/lvv-certification-process/ |
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Post by bzrse7en on Sept 13, 2017 20:12:21 GMT 12
Where abouts are you bzrse7en? I'm in Christchurch, and the guy at the airport VINZ is very helpful but a little confused today just trying to assign a VIN. As my chassis number is 17 digits he says he has to use that as a VIN, the system won't let him assign another. But my chassis number starts with LB, the manufacturers initials, he says that relates to China in the NZ system. He's going to get back to me as soon as he's made a couple of phone calls. I did find this on the NZTA site but it doesn't spell out the finer details www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/warrants-and-certificates/modifying-your-vehicle/lvv-certification-process/I'm in Christchurch also, I used Jipcho road VTNZ both times. There is one guy there who knows his stuff. |
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Post by fingers on Sept 14, 2017 6:46:57 GMT 12
Excellent, thanks very much.
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Post by budfid on Feb 28, 2020 10:25:41 GMT 12
What is the procedure for vin and scratch build cert if chassis used is whole unmolested 87 chev C20 chassis without any long numbers , there are some short numbers through out the chassis . I have got numbers on the body I,m using
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Post by Chris on Feb 28, 2020 10:30:24 GMT 12
What is the procedure for vin and scratch build cert if chassis used is 87 chev chassis without any long numbers , there are some short numbers through out the chassis . I have got numbers on the body I,m using What is the body and what is the chassis. Do you have proof of ownership for both components? |
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Post by budfid on May 2, 2020 11:33:37 GMT 12
no receipts for double cab Bedford been "on hold " in my name for years , for chassis I have a receipt from TM trader but no ref numbers anywhere
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Post by Chris on May 4, 2020 9:02:04 GMT 12
no receipts for double cab Bedford been "on hold " in my name for years , for chassis I have a receipt from TM trader but no ref numbers anywhere Hi Budfid As the cab is in your name, this will be sufficient evidence of ownership, for the chassis you will need to complete a legal declaration describing in detail how, where and when you took ownership of it and include the invoice and details of the Trademe trader. The declaration must also state that you have legal entitlement to the chassis and that there is no dispute in relation to the ownership. This must be signed by you, then stamped and co-signed by a Justice of the Peace and the document (original) sent to us with a completed application for classification (F010). The F010 needs to be completed by an LVV certifier, they should sight and photograph the chassis and body to send in with the application. Hopefully that helps. Cheers Chris |
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