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Post by slimjim on Jul 23, 2019 20:39:19 GMT 12
Hey Guys
Just wanting a bit of clarification on the subject of after market belts..
I have an old '69 Beetle which has Retractable front and lap belts rear using the factory seat belt anchor point.
As the belts are possibly 50 years old this year I would like to replace them as a precautionary safety measure.
I have found a new aftermarket set from an Australian VW parts distributor.
Using the factory anchor points, do the belts need to meet any particular standard? The existing belts have no distinguishable tags or markings.
The new belts have E1 markings and meet all Australian standards..
MAny thanks in advance
Slim
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Post by Chris on Jul 24, 2019 8:44:40 GMT 12
Hey Guys Just wanting a bit of clarification on the subject of after market belts.. I have an old '69 Beetle which has Retractable front and lap belts rear using the factory seat belt anchor point. As the belts are possibly 50 years old this year I would like to replace them as a precautionary safety measure. I have found a new aftermarket set from an Australian VW parts distributor. Using the factory anchor points, do the belts need to meet any particular standard? The existing belts have no distinguishable tags or markings. The new belts have E1 markings and meet all Australian standards.. MAny thanks in advance Slim Hi Slim Was a 1969 VW Beetle fitted with retractable front belts and lap rear belts as an OE factory fitment? Something tells me they were possibly only fitted with static front belts and no rear belts, but I may be wrong. Seatbelts do need to comply with one or more of the approved standards on Schedule 2 of the Land Transport Rule 32011: Seatbelts and Seatbelt Anchorages 2001 (page 39), www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/resources/rules/docs/seatbelts-and-seatbelt-anchorages-2002-as-at-1-december-2016.pdfThey will not need certification provided they are the correct type fitted to unmodified OE seatbelt anchorages. (a retractable belt on anchorages designed for a static belt would probably not comply) Please note that there are some belts that are the subject of safety alerts. lvvta.org.nz/documents/safety_alerts/LVVTA_Safety_Alert_10-2018_Changzhou_BWD_BVL_Seatbelt_failures.pdflvvta.org.nz/documents/safety_alerts/LVVTA_Safety_Alert_02-2019_-_APV_Seatbelt_Bolt_Recall.pdf |
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Post by raddodge on Jul 28, 2020 12:34:35 GMT 12
Hi i have a 1963 dodge polara that came with bench seats and lap belts that had bucket seats and 3 point belts installed (non retractable) in 1997, but was not put on the declaration.They were attached to b piller. In the proccess of cert for seats and seatbelts. The problem is the gap on inside of piller is only 25 mm wide.cannot get a doubler plate inside to match the 30 mm width min standards. So the question i have can i purchase new lap belts to use with bucket seats. The 1963 dodge polara 500 2 door came with bucket seats and lap belts my model is 1963 polara 330 4 door. Any help would be appreciated thanks
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Post by Chris on Jul 28, 2020 14:02:17 GMT 12
Hi i have a 1963 dodge polara that came with bench seats and lap belts that had bucket seats and 3 point belts installed (non retractable) in 1997, but was not put on the declaration.They were attached to b piller. In the proccess of cert for seats and seatbelts. The problem is the gap on inside of piller is only 25 mm wide.cannot get a doubler plate inside to match the 30 mm width min standards. So the question i have can i purchase new lap belts to use with bucket seats. The 1963 dodge polara 500 2 door came with bucket seats and lap belts my model is 1963 polara 330 4 door. Any help would be appreciated thanks Hi Raddodge, Anchorages added in 1997 require certification as only modifications that were completed prior to 1st Jan 1992 were able to be included on a declaration, however, if you go to a certifier they may be able to identify an alternative solution for your upper anchorage that still meet LVVTA requirements and are not overly complicated. Let me know if you need a certifiers name and contact detaiks. Replacement seatbelts in a vehicle first registered anywhere between 1st January 1955 and 31st October 1979 and first registered in NZ before 1 January 1991, must be the static lap-and-diagonal type. There is an allowance to retain original equipment (OE) seatbelts, but they must be the OE belt in the vehicle and meet requirements for condition. noting - an aftermarket remake of the OE belt is not an OE belt. There is also the ability to apply for an upper anchorage seatbelt exemption, but this needs to be applied for through a certifier and considered by the Technical Working Group of the LVVTA. Hopefully that answers your question. Cheers Chris |
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Post by raddodge on Aug 22, 2020 19:15:02 GMT 12
Thanks sorted ended up taking 160 mm bar tapped for seat belt ground and slid up in piller then plug welded. Note lvvta required spot welds no further than 35 mm apart 100 mm either side of seat belt hole on pillar edges for future readers
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