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Post by pushrodtwin on Jun 16, 2022 8:00:47 GMT 12
Hi, what are the rules in the pending Motorcycle Constructors Manual regarding leading link forks?
Ciao, Roy
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Post by Chris on Jun 17, 2022 10:06:22 GMT 12
Hi, what are the rules in the pending Motorcycle Constructors Manual regarding leading link forks? Ciao, Roy Hi Roy The current draft states that custom forks will require to be considered by TAC for approval. But this is still a draft and has not been finalised. No I don't know when it will be finalised. Regards Chris |
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Post by pushrodtwin on Jun 26, 2022 18:46:50 GMT 12
Thank you Chris. My situation right now is this; I have a set of LL forks which came from a manufacturer in the UK. I dont rate them. I consider that I could fabricate a better set myself, as I have done previously. What would the TAC "consider" as criteria, and would the criteria be applied to overseas supplied items the same way as local "home made" forks?
Ciao,
R
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Post by Chris on Jun 27, 2022 8:28:57 GMT 12
Thank you Chris. My situation right now is this; I have a set of LL forks which came from a manufacturer in the UK. I dont rate them. I consider that I could fabricate a better set myself, as I have done previously. What would the TAC "consider" as criteria, and would the criteria be applied to overseas supplied items the same way as local "home made" forks? Ciao, R Hi they would consider the materials, design and construction method. You would submit a design, listing the materials and construction method to TAC for their approval and yes the overseas items would need to be looked at considering the same things. |
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Post by pushrodtwin on Jun 28, 2022 19:35:13 GMT 12
Thank you Chris. My situation right now is this; I have a set of LL forks which came from a manufacturer in the UK. I dont rate them. I consider that I could fabricate a better set myself, as I have done previously. What would the TAC "consider" as criteria, and would the criteria be applied to overseas supplied items the same way as local "home made" forks? Ciao, R Hi they would consider the materials, design and construction method. You would submit a design, listing the materials and construction method to TAC for their approval and yes the overseas items would need to be looked at considering the same things. Hi, Thanks Chris. So, in view of the fact that the draft manual is still some way off, what is the current rule situation? If I present my sidecar outfit to a certifier now with the UK forks fitted, what are the rules? Then at a later date, should I build my own forks, what happens then? Ciao, Roy. |
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Post by Chris on Jul 8, 2022 8:34:54 GMT 12
Hi they would consider the materials, design and construction method. You would submit a design, listing the materials and construction method to TAC for their approval and yes the overseas items would need to be looked at considering the same things. Hi, Thanks Chris. So, in view of the fact that the draft manual is still some way off, what is the current rule situation? If I present my sidecar outfit to a certifier now with the UK forks fitted, what are the rules? Then at a later date, should I build my own forks, what happens then? Ciao, Roy. Hi Roy If you modify a vehicle after certification, it will require re-certification. Regards Chris |
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Post by pushrodtwin on Jul 8, 2022 13:12:53 GMT 12
Hi Chris, OK, I guess the answer to the second half of that question was a bit obvious. However, what I meant was; what are the rules currently for forks built overseas? They are not built to any standards, simply fabricated by an English fabricator of sidecars & forks. www.lumleyengineering.co.uk/page_41.php?pgenme=bespoke-leading-link-forksThere are a number of sets in service in this country. I have had owners tell me that WOF inspectors & LVVTA Certifiers simply accept that they are OK, and sign them off as acceptable, is that how it should be? Ciao, Roy |
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Post by Chris on Jul 12, 2022 15:42:13 GMT 12
Hi Chris, OK, I guess the answer to the second half of that question was a bit obvious. However, what I meant was; what are the rules currently for forks built overseas? They are not built to any standards, simply fabricated by an English fabricator of sidecars & forks. www.lumleyengineering.co.uk/page_41.php?pgenme=bespoke-leading-link-forksThere are a number of sets in service in this country. I have had owners tell me that WOF inspectors & LVVTA Certifiers simply accept that they are OK, and sign them off as acceptable, is that how it should be? Ciao, Roy Hi Roy The forks in the link you posted are "bespoke" ie they are custom made and not made in volume by a reputable manufacturer, so they would need to go through TAC. If they were made in volume by a reputable manufacturer, they would need to be inspected by your certifier to make sure they are built with tradesman like quality and that there is no unusual designs, they may possibly require NDT too. My best advice is to gather together all the information your certifier will require on any forks that are made in volume and catch your eye, take that information to your certifier and discuss it with them. If you want to import custom forks or make your own forks, they will require TAC approval. Regards Chris |
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Post by pushrodtwin on Jul 14, 2022 9:00:57 GMT 12
Thank you again Chris. Reading through the Modification Categories, where does a sidecar outfit sit? And what is actually being certified, the construction of the sidecar, the attachments, or both? I have just downloaded FS015 for Trikes and clearly cannot comply with that.
Ciao,
Roy
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Post by Chris on Jul 14, 2022 9:57:04 GMT 12
Thank you again Chris. Reading through the Modification Categories, where does a sidecar outfit sit? And what is actually being certified, the construction of the sidecar, the attachments, or both? I have just downloaded FS015 for Trikes and clearly cannot comply with that. Ciao, Roy Hi Roy It will probably be a 2B category certification based on the conversations we have had. But that may change depending on the modifications. Please contact your LVV certifier with further questions - I have attached a link below to all the certifiers in NZ who can certify motorbikes and trikes. lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/certifier_lists/lvv_certifier_list_motorcycles_and_trikes.pdfRegards |
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Post by pushrodtwin on Aug 11, 2023 7:57:50 GMT 12
Hi Chris, how is progress with the Motorcycle Constructors Manual? Will it be published in your "Documents for Consultation" any time soon?
Ciao
Roy
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Post by Chris on Aug 11, 2023 8:09:13 GMT 12
Hi Chris, how is progress with the Motorcycle Constructors Manual? Will it be published in your "Documents for Consultation" any time soon? Ciao Roy Hi Roy The motorcycle standard has progressed but is still considered to be in development, if you subscribe here, you will be notified as soon as it goes out for consultation. Regards Chris |
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Post by pushrodtwin on Aug 11, 2023 17:54:24 GMT 12
Thanks Chris, I have ticked the Industry Consultation on LVV Standards & NZCCM Chapters box, is that correct?
Roy
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Post by Chris on Aug 14, 2023 9:20:57 GMT 12
Thanks Chris, I have ticked the Industry Consultation on LVV Standards & NZCCM Chapters box, is that correct? Roy Sounds about right. |
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